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MY IDEA: for space and navigation

part I: grid

basically you have a grid system, and you use the squares to navgate space and go around dodgeing asteroids and entering the atmospheres of planets. The picture I made represents a zoomed out view of the system where you can see all of the planets and objects. but each square actaully represents 100-1000 of the squares you ship actually takes up by itself (maybe even more) and so when you zoom out your ship will be contained in one of those giant squares so you know where you are on a larger scale but when you zoom in you'll zoom in out the smaller ones.

part II: planets

I have the planets represented as shaded in circles

Here is a quick legend of them:

the large orange one in the center (as you probubly guessed) is the sun of that system

the little red and orange ones around the sun are the planets like mercury and venus. (they would be very hot)

the green ones that are more away from the sun would be like earth

the pinkish purple ones would be like the great gas giants

the blue ones would be ice planets (like pluto…poor, poor little pluto :(…)

They also have moons (the greyish shaded circles)

There are asteroids (little brown things)

and there are also rings around the gas giants. (my idea with them is that they are rather hard to see and would require sensors to detect. So you have to be careful going about them or you could be caught off guard by a ring of death that would smash you ship to pieces.)

Part III: planet surfaces

just a little thing I thought about the planets to enter them…

the hot, magma covered ones you would need like gas masks and suits that protected you from the harsh heat

(but you could find rare metals more easily and with the right equipment get them from the magma)

the earth like ones could be infested with a number of things from giant monsters to exotic animals (which you could hunt and sell the pelts for a shiny credit or you could capture them and make your own little zoo? :D). you might not need anything unless there is low oxygen.

I haven't really thought of the gas giant much more than a hazard. (maybe you could make them like Bespin off Star Wars, you litter them with space stations (maybe make them trash dumps?. would you even need trash dumps? lol) and use them like bases of operation.

the ice giants would be covered in ic and you would need lasers explosives are diamond covered drill heads to plow through them and get the hidden minerals inside. (maybe even find rare new or thought to be extinct creatures inside giant ice chasms, caverns, and caves (yahh alliteration! :o).)

Part IV: asteriods black holes and all that cool stuffs.

my thought on everything is that it could possibly move aroudn the sun? (this thought is if everything does)

asteroids and planets spin around the sun based on some quillstein equation law thing, and things could collide and be altered and destroyed. (I made an asteroid crash in an earth like planet. (it happens :o) but basically that planet could just be turned into a smaller planet with the other parts turned into various asteroids or it could be split in half or something like that (basically an object has to be so big to be considered a "planet" and if it is a planet it assumes the form of the area away from the sun that it is in. It works sort of like how the death star blows Alderan(I think I spelled that right) into liek a giant asteroid field, but if those peices were big enough they could be turned back into planets (especially if one peice is big enough to attract all the other peices to it.)(just an idea)

but basically asteroids are to small to change into a "planet" and are floating rocks with maybe some random common or special rare ores only found on them and they move around the sun at a constant speed.

black holes are basically swirling death pits that will do nothing but crush you into a tiny object and launch you at a trillion lightyears a millisecond until you get spit out and thrown into some random peice of rock where you would be virtually disentigrated form the universe…(what a painful way to die?) (but mabye you could (with the right technology) turn them into something useful and aim them between two quadrants and use them as a portal of some sort?) (just another idea)

mmm…I forgot to put a black hole in my picture…(just imagine a swirling black >:D face that wants to eat you…:D)

but there could so be other stuff like systems that haven't formed yet and are highly dangerous (and maybe witht h right tech you could shape?) (more ideas)

Part V: and idea on how the squares can be filled

I don't know if this is practical (most likely isn't) but if you could possibly make the squares not as if they were like…object that things floated instantly from on to another. but free flowing between them like you do when you move your character around with wasd or arrow keys or whatever so that they have like real time hit boxes or whatever you call them. so asteroids you have to actually try and dodge them. ( but this would be kind of complex?) ideas…:o

I think the idea of you have basically a ship dock. and you are basically given the choice between 3 starter ships and the option to "customly build" or better yet you HAVE to custom build but you have the choice of three or more premade ones that you could instantly choose. (they would be the more common variety of sips you woudl see early on) but you could have different looking storage parts engines and all that stuff) (but you would have to have an engine, life support, and cockpit, but you would have to have a storage place as well and maybe a little turrent gun. and basically you would interlink these parts so basically you would get the main 4 way center peice or just a pipe from the cockpit to the back where the engine is (basically the 4 way center would be the life support (if they get destroyed you would have no air and would also die in short time) and this could add sort of a creative aspect. 9 although it woudl take more thought on how to make them actually look "good" (of corse you could make it where there is an outside and an inside look. so basically on the outside you have the main hull and the you cna add wings and "guns" so like turrents that fire on their own or set guns. so then on the inside you have a cockpit a life suport middle hull thing where you cna see you life support and guns and also you can go to another part where you can have storage (maybe you could have larger storages for like mining equipment?)

Combat I am not really sure about. my idea would be if it was real time you had a fire button and you shot lasers and your turrents aimed and fired based on your select of target and if it was turn based movement  you could do it where you went into a "battle mode" (if an enemy entered you square or area)and had a battlefield based where if there was an asteroid there was some small little obsticle asteroids and such and you could have turn based movement and shooting (or you could have it real time movement and shooting on a little field) Idk just some ideas on that and basically you coudl try and run away by flying out of the battlefield and such.

I know the picture isn't a great representation but basically you find a system fly there you pop in only seeing( based on you sensors) a sun with better sensors larger planets and with even greater sensors larger asteroids and middle to smaller planets and such. (but who knows what you could find in space.)

(I know I kind of went off the topic of what you said and I have many typing errors but my excuse is I am tired and I feel liek it all goes into the "space" side of things. :)

oh…I don't know if I said it but there are moons and they aren't really anything special…(being the first to a new moon doens't make you no hero…;D…at least in the time period where you can teleport though modfied black holes they aren't…:D)

o.k. no more must sleep…aww…I forgot about my idea for the total power of the ship and how you must choose between sensors engine life support shields gun and all that cool stuff…:o ohh wel…should be common sence…I mean…its not like rocket science is complicated anymore? :D

,Cazee09(does the smiley make me cool?)

Well, the object of the game is to grow your corporation or whatever get awesome items and go as far as you can in the game?. What if you could have like robot cargo carriing ships that go and get the resources off the planets for you that you have found.

So in case you find 10 trillion tons of trazmium ore you don't have to go back and forth on your own but your little robots could? while you go and trudge through the dungeons and other planets or what not. And when your flying you can manage them as well as your ship if you get attacked?

You could buy ships or capture enemy ships an dput your own robot troops in them and they can fly with you and yourt cargo ships for protection.

Basically all they would do is become a "fleet" and that fleet would fly from point a to point b or some pattern collecting what you want and then flying back to the space station trade depot base thing. either leaving goods or selling them on the universal exchange and then going back to the planet for more. or you could have them set for patrol mod eand they fly around protecting your system from any enemies or they go ahead of you scouting the area for you so you can stay safe as you make your way to the goal. you could evne have ai troops with you in dungeons? Idk, I think it would make it "easier" or more "efficient". although you wouldn't be the only one in space.

(I'm not totally sure if this goes against the rules of a rogue like? I like empire or just building up your civilization games myself. So my ideas are probubly coming more from that style. )

I like the idea of having a stock exchange and you can have your own fleets manage the transportation of your goods

(Since the ships aren't going to be the size of super star destroyers.) (although you could make it where when you start out you choose to like make a corporation and you can choose who you want to be in it, Like you could be an explorer/mapper/dungeon fighter type dude or dudet that just goes around finding mapping and clearing areas for the cargo ships to come and collect reasources and you can sell the maps and you get paid from you company over time. or you could choose to be like the creator of the business but still be the same thing but you would also have to manage the finances of the company) (maybe this is too far form rogue like?)

I made some sort of rough example of the inside of a ship in paint.net :o

There is

a cockpit  (with chair and controls)

middle part (with a dropping floor to enter and exit)

two wing-like side parts (maybe to house turrent scand computer scanners or what not)

Rear part can have engine control panel and/or a storage area. (super hyper storage particle vacuum compactanator containment unit…or shspvccu for short…:D)

idk if I said this before but maybe you have set part that you can resize and stuff. and you can basically build the outside and use set built peices for the inside. So you can design the insides and have like a frame and you add like wings and stuff on the outside to make it look better. and turrents could be added on the outside as well. they just ghave to fit. along with the engines just plop them on in reasonable locations?

:p You just wait. :p

I am not totally sure on how your making this as a top down or like where you are watching from an angle and it is more in depth?

I was only baseing stuff really off of what I saw you program on the twitch stream

I would try to model and all that. but I unfortunatley have my own refurbished dell xp and it can't handle much.

I want to play so many games but this thing doesn't work! I even spent money on civ 5 because I thought maybe it could surprise me but it laughs at me! lol oh well. atleas tit is on steam so I can save it for later.

So you are basically going to get boxes and in these boxes your going to have to fit all the right gadgets and gizmos you are going to want to have on your adventure? so like you get your "cockpit" or "command bridge" and in that you place you chair your controls and what not.

but on the outside you could have these triangular or whatever shaped blocks and you can size them and just like mold them onto your hull so it looks semi decent. I mean. that would add some custimization and sence of uniqueness?(I think that is how spore works, I haven't been able to play that either :o(well the ds adventure one I did))

(I like making things my way, Why I like Burger King ;D)

(everythings one step at a time though. :D)

You could have it set up like that??

I mean that fits?

you can basically see an overview of your ship and you are in it and you basically go around repairing your ship so you stay alive and the enemy will be doing the same thing and the guns will fire on their own when they aren't on cooldown and you cna target what they fire at :o.

you could even have a power bar that basically controlled you stats. like putting more power on your guns increase damage and reduces cooldown?

putting them on your shields increase your shields and so on adn so forth

and maybe if you don't want to fight you cna go to your cockpit where you will get a little screen that says try to escape and if you hit it your ship turns around and try to fly away but the enemy can pursue but maybe you have anti chase bombs or space mines and you drop them behind you and maybe that could change the tide of battle into your favor???

I mean you could create a preety cool space fight. havin the little ship shootin animations usin different kinds of weapons

:o

(better than the shooting at a bajillion miles thing?)

I was kind of keeping the specific idea for my personal learning project which I have been working for almost a year now, but what the hell, it might be that it's never going to see sunlight at all. So here it goes:

What about Silent Hunter series based interface/space flight mode? You could have a "local" map where you could traverse, set course and overlook any ship scanner finds and a more "global zoomed out map" for star system jumps. You would also have the module section which quill has already been working on and have some statistics (damage/repair maybe?) and on the specific combat interface (bridge?) where you could micromanage your ship's different behaviour elements like course direction and speed. It would be have to be even used when let's say the targeting system goes "bust" or something. If you have experienced Silent Hunter series, I think the idea might easily expand and grow in your minds.

so yah your flyin around space filling out your map/clearin fog of war with your ship following these plotted courses

gray stuff is what you don't know/"fog of war"

black with stars is the area you have cleared

it could be something like that???

and you can still get hit with enemies that are just floating around? (like start a battle?)

idk that may work?

I also named the planets like

G-gas

I-ice

T-Temperate

H-hot

M-magma

your ship is the little blue dot…you could plot points with shift?

and I also put up a space station return portal like thing…:o

(maybe you get sent through the repair station starts to be built (so your stuck in the system for a certain amount of time)

and you explore and when it is done you can return or you can start the mineing and gathering of resources from planets

that you have explored the surface of?)

Cazee, that is almost exactly what I had in mind. And you would absolutely need an autopilot at least as a module or as crew.